If… Then
(Seals of Revelation Revisited and Pondered)

Yes, I’m on a roll.  Yes, I’m going to keep going until I’m not feeling the ‘roll’ anymore.  Could be a while.  And I like to think things through, and if I think them through out loud, I can get input from others… well, those not exasperated with my roll.  You could always ‘x’ out.  I’m betting I’m not gonna be that lucky with some of you.  S’okay.  Stick around.  Maybe you’ll learn something that shocks the hell out of you come September 21st.

So okay.  We start with Matthew 24.

Now as He (Yeshua) sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying “Tell us, when will these things be?  And what will be the sign of Your (second) coming, and of the end of the age?”  And Yeshua answered them and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you.  For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will decieve many.  And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars.  See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.  For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.  And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various placesAll these things are the beginning of sorrows.”

Beginning of Sorrows. Keyword:  Beginning.  The kick-off, start of.  All lumped together under a title… ‘the beginning of sorrows’.  Wanna see something?  Let’s look at Revelation 6.

Now I saw when the Lamb (Yeshua in Heaven) opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.”  And I looked and behold a white horseHe who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.  When He opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come and see.”  Another horse, fiery red, went out.  And it was granted to the one who sat on it to take peace from the earth, and that people should kill one another; and there was given to him a great swordWhen He opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come and see.”  So I looked, and behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand.  And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, “A quart of wheat for a [day’s wage], and three quarts of barley for a [day’s wage]; and do not harm the oil and the wine.”  And when He opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth creature saying, “Come and see”.  So I looked, and behold a pale horse.  And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him.  And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with the sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth.

… (skipping seal five – we’ll hit it, I promise.)  I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthuake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood.  And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind  Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place.

Beginning of Sorrows.  Deceiver, War, Famine/Economic collapse, Pestilence, and Earthquakes.
The Seal Judgments.    Deceiver, War, Famine/Economic collapse, Pestilence, and Earthquakes.

And let’s factor in my Six-Month Suggestion, while we’re at it.  To be thorough.

Jan – Jun 07 :  Trib Begins with ENPI (7-year covenant) by Solana
Jul – Dec 07 :  Seal 1:  Blair takes world religious unifier job, AoC organizes
Jan – Jun 08 :  Seal 2:  Ezekiel’s war is set into place (Russia’s move towards south/oil)
Jul – Dec 08 :  Seal 3: October economic collapse sends world into recession/depression
Jan – Jun 09 :  Seal 4: Swine Flu pandemic; bracing for fall severe recurrence

\\NoTe:  Seal four is death by four things: war, famine, ‘death’, and pestilence.  This is a ‘snowball’ of all of the seals – they don’t happen and end, they keep going, building.\\\

Yesterday I wrote about Seal Five, but didn’t include all the verses.  This confused some, so let’s just quote the whole damn thing:

When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of the Lord and for the testimony which they held.  And they cried out with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”  Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed.

Now the other seals (war, pestilence, economic collapse, earthquakes, deceiver) all were things that effect us here on earth.  But there NOTHING in seal five that indicates that earth is involved.  It’s a conversation between martyrs who are already dead and the Almighty.  We are not privy to this conversation – it doesn’t effect us directly like the other seals do.  I was programmed to think that the verse indicated we’d be killed for our faith – but it DOES NOT SAY THAT.  In looking at Matthew 24, the next thing it says is that people will be delivered up and killed, but that’s AFTER the ‘beginning of sorrows’ – it’s not part of the first section.  You have to rearrange verses to make that work, and add in conjecture where seal five is concerned.  Whoever came up with that was stretching… and I was raised on that teaching (damn the church to hell) and misguidedly have endorsed it for decades.  Forgive me.

So okay.  But seal five breaks the six-month suggestion pattern… because it’s not something we can witness happening and mark.  So I over-extended (another bad of mine) the Six-Month Suggestion; it was for the four horsemen that ‘snowballed’ events on the earth.  Got it.  So we have two more seals (martyr’s plea and earthquake) and then…

After these things I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, on the sea, or on any tree.  Then I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God.  And he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, saying, “Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.”

And then it says there’s 144,000 (12 indicating tribes of Israel and 12 indicating the complete/whole number of them: 12×12=144)… and it goes on to name the tribes.  THESE ARE JEWS.  Not christians.  Just like when they were slaves back in Egypt, the Lord protects His chosen people from what He’s going to do… but they will be THERE for it, which is why they are being sealed.  Again, just like in Egypt, they go thru the first set of ‘sorrows’, but not the second two sets.  ((In Egypt there were 9 plagues – three sets of three – and then judgment/death.  In the end times, there are 21 sorrows/judgments – three sets of seven – and then the end.))

I’ve underlined some words, too.    Moving on, but we’re coming back, trust me…

After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all the nations, tribes, people, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.”

These aren’t just Jews, this time.  Who do you see before the Lamb?  It’s the Christ-followers.  This would be the rapture.  So putting the events in order (that are not already accounted for), we have Martyr’s Plea, Earthquakes, Stillness/sealings, and then the rapture.

Back in 2003 when I started my watch, I was giddy, because in order for there to be a Pre-Trib rapture, it had to happen during Rosh Ha’Shana 2003, 2004, 2005, or 2006 (because the ENPI of January 2007 started the Tribulation).  And at the time, I was a 20+ year pre-tribber… so when RH2006 came and went, I had a SERIOUS problem.  Facts couldn’t be changed, so my thinking had to be.  It’s another example of ‘gaining knowledge’ – I didn’t know it wasn’t a pre-trib rapture until it was proven NOT to be, and that knowledge changed my thinking, causing me to grow and learn even more.

And so I had to become a pre-Wrath Tribber (which meant revisiting ALL that scripture and figuring out the possibilities and likelihoods).  In order for it to be a pre-Wrath rapture, the rapture MUST occur September 19-20, 2009.  If it doesn’t happen, then in order for it to be a Mid-Trib rapture, it MUST occur Rosh Ha’Shana 2010.  It canNOT not happen one of those two years, because I cannot change further than that.  Not without completely forsaking scripture, because anything else would cause scripture to contradict, and it cannot contradict.  So I’ve been telling you (since October 2006) that the rapture will occur either Rosh Ha’Shana 2009 or 2010.

Now, a smart person plans for one thing at a time.  If you’ve got a busy line-up of swim lessons, BBQ at Jones’, and dance rehearsal you don’t put on your kid’s ballet shoes and glitter costume first.  One thing at a time – it only makes sense.  So since 2009 rapture possiblility comes before 2010 rapture possibility, we look at the scenario for the first one, first.

As I said yesterday, HPH’s report puts the rapture at Fall of 2009 – with the religious ‘powers that be’ at that time ‘losing an arm’, immediately following a ‘globally-prominent leader’ emerges (which can’t happen per scripture until the ‘restrainer’ is removed), and ‘panic among their minions’ breaking out, causing a ‘surge in income’ (offering/tithing/buying hope) and works/new surge in evangelism (‘which will fail’, because they’re still christchun and screwed up, which is why they didn’t get raptured, hello).  Which brings me to my if/then musings. 

IF HPH is right and the rapture is THIS September 19-20,
THEN between July1st and September 19th we have to have:

1 – Martyr’s Plea
2 – Terra event/earthquakes
3 – Stillness period
4 – Sealing of the Jews

I’m going to work backwards.  Because August 19-September 19 is Elul.  The month-long Hebrew time of ‘preparation’, which includes cleaning your house, making things right with people, repentance, paying debts, etc.  It’s a time of being still and reflecting on the relationships in your life, taking stock of what you have to give thanks for, and ‘getting things right’.  Since it’s a time of ‘preparation’, doesn’t sealing the Jews in preparation for what their going to go thru fit almost perfectly?  This month-long time of reflection and stillness?  Hey, guess, what, we’ve marked two things off our list!  So now we need Martyr’s Plea and Terra Event to take place (or at least kick-off) between July 1st and August 19.

A few things that’ll get me laughed off the internet.  First, remember when I posted ‘Aliens vs. Demons’ a few weeks ago?  I posted a picture of crop circles that indicated a possible DOUBLE solar event – a Coronal Mass Ejection at the same time as a massive solar flare, slated for July 7th?  Well, there’s been another crop circle.  The sites that tell about these two ‘warnings’ are here and here (both start with new age/chakra shtuff, go past it for the real data/information).  This one is in the shape of a jellyfish (NASA says that when the Earth’s magnetic field is hit by solar emissions, it takes the shape of a jellyfish).  It has seven circles down the middle, and seven tentacles – July 7th, again. 

Anyhow, IF there’s a solar event on July 7th, THEN the emission would hit the earth, cause the magnetic field to take a jellyfish shape, would put pressure on our planet that could quite easily trigger earthquakes, shake the trees, move land masses, etc.  IF it were to move the already cracked Antarctic bridge, THEN (coupled with the warming factors at play presently) could more quickly facilitate the reduction of polar mass, creating a global coastal event, putting more water pressure on the seismic faults, triggering more terra events,etc.  Taking a good month and a half to work through… until things ‘calm to stillness’ for Elul.  ((<< Which, ironically this year is also at the EXACT same time as Ramadan, believe it or not.))

That leaves us with seven days – July 1 thru July 7th for the Martyr’s Plea… which (as stated before) we aren’t privy to, so we won’t know – but seven is God’s big number, so it sets off a green light with me.  And for recap and ease of understanding, here’s how the timeline would look IF it were a 2009 rapture:

Jan – Jun 07  Trib Begins with ENPI (7-year covenant) by Solana
Jul – Dec 07  Seal 1:  Blair takes world religious unifier job, AoC organizes
Jan – Jun 08  Seal 2:  Ezekiel’s war is set into place (Russia’s move towards south)
Jul – Dec 08  Seal 3: October Economic collapse; recession/depression
Jan – Jun 09  Seal 4: Swine Flu pandemic; bracing for fall severe recurrence
July 1-7, 09  Seal 5:  Martyr’s Plea
Jul 7-Aug 18  Seal 6:  Terra Event (earthquakes, etc.)
  Aug 19-Sep 19   Elul (month of Jewish Preparation) and Ramadan
  Sept 19-20   Rosh Ha’Shana – possible rapture period?


These are events foretold to happen, and the order that they’d fit in if there was a 2009 rapture.  There are a few other events coming up in the next month or so that are also very interesting, and worth watching. 

July 9th    17 Tammuz – Day of ‘breaking’ where Israel is concerned  
   July 15 – 18      Possible Papal change event (per HPH)
July 22nd    New moon and total solar eclipse
July 28 – 31    Nation-wide martial law ‘exercise’ (USA)
July 30    9 Av – Day of destruction where Israel is concerned

The Bible says to be ‘sober’ (serious) and ‘vigilant’ (alert) and Yeshua commanded us to ‘watch’ for the signs.  That’s all I’m doing at this point – watching dates, watching for events.  Hope you’ll find the events worth watching, too.

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  1. Thank you for this!  I did download the HPH report (Wow is all I can say!), and have told my husband about it.  He was….confused, a bit, because he doesn’t think in Biblical terms – then I come here and see your newest post. 😆  I read it to him…..he was startled, but – at least a little – convinced.  The fact that you don’t pull verses out of context and “massage” them to fit helps. :p

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  2. Why am I so confused? What is the HPH report?

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  3. SO interesting. I really want to thank you for breaking all of this down :dance:

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  4. If it ends up not being the 2009 date, what will be happening in the year delay while we are still here?  Even if it is stuff we are protected from.  Or will nothing be happening- is that the silence in heaven for about a half hour?

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  5. Hey Anna, Im the husband of lifen’lavender. She had me read your blog and your ideas are interesting but I have a few reservations. You say the sealed are Jews?? Jew=tribe of Judah(and Ben depending how ya see it) the 144,000 are ALL tribes of Israel right? Also, “completely forsaking scripture” over the possibility that the ENPI is not the 7 year treaty in scripture? (All though it definitely fits the bill.) Not meant to be negative, by the way nice to meet you :yes:, p.s. did you notice on the jellyfish circle the order of the circles? The 7 lines that made the body of the jfish(the seals), the seven tentacles(which resembled 7 trumpet blasts) followed by the 7 balls on the middle tenticle(7 bowls at last blast)!!!!

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  6. @LifeinLavender – HPH = http://www.halfpasthuman.com  They use predictive linguistics (via web bots) to..well, predict the future.  I know it sounds kooky – but they have pretty much a 100% accuracy rate (I think – I’ve only been aware of them for 18 months or so)

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  7. The 144,000 are the reason the JW’s can NEVER be right. God is NOT done with the Jewish people (and JW’s will not “replace” them; neither does/will the “church”).

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  8. Fascinating stuff! Will definitely be watching events and the skies as well.Come quickly Lord!

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  9. Julie paradox

     /  June 26, 2009

    Am I right in thinking that ten of the tribes of Israel are “lost”? Which could mean that several obscure groups are also affected in this scenario (I read somewhere once that an African group with an oral tradition of being a tribe of Israel are genetically pretty close to the two remaining).

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  10. Please don’t tell me that bad things are going to happen this Sep. 21st. It’ll be my 7th anniversary, and the anniversary of the departure of both my grandmother and great-grandmother. I don’t think I can take anymore bad things happening on the day that was supposed to be a happy day.I know that is completely irrelevant to your post. Sorry.It’s very fascinating stuff though. Thanks for posting it.

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  11. :rapture: You may not be here for it. :rapture:

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  12. sanctifiedaffliction

     /  June 29, 2009

    Wonderful post!
    I’m so excited!

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  13. @Anna – That’s what I’m hoping. 😆

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